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420HC vs S35VN.

In short

For a fixed blade, S35VN is the steel for going longer between sharpenings, and 420HC the steel for wet work and quick touch-ups. Crucible's S35VN is rated very good for edge retention and good for corrosion, and its toughness is rated as improved over S30V. 420HC pairs a modest, very easy to sharpen edge with excellent corrosion resistance and very good toughness.

420HCS35VN / CPM S35VN
Type
stainlessstainless (powder metallurgy)
Made by
Generic AISI grade; notably used by Buck Knives with a proprietary heat treat.Crucible Industries (USA)
Composition
C ~0.45-0.55%Cr ~13-14%
C ~1.4%Cr ~14%V ~3%Nb ~0.5% (niobium, replacing some vanadium from S30V)Mo ~2%
Hardness
56-58 (Buck's factory spec) HRC58-61 HRC
Edge retention
Modest by modern standards but reliable and very easy to sharpen.Very good, niobium carbide addition gives a finer, more uniform carbide structure than S30V.
Toughness
Very good, a big reason it remains popular for hard-use fixed blades.Improved over S30V, the niobium substitution specifically targeted better toughness and machinability.
Corrosion resistance
Excellent, among the more corrosion-resistant knife steels in common use.Good, similar to S30V.
Where it sits
Entry to mid-tier; Buck's decades-long proprietary heat treat is the differentiator versus generic 420.Premium tier; the refined successor to S30V, extremely common on premium production and custom folders.
On this site right now
78 listings, 53 distinct models, $20.16 to $179.9531 listings, 17 distinct models, $114.99 to $244.80

The PakLite 2.0 Field Knife in each steel

The PakLite 2.0 Field Knife makes this choice easy to see, because the two listings named here give the same blade length. The Buck 631 PakLite 2.0 Field Knife gives a 4 inch stonewash 420HC blade and a black glass filled nylon handle. The Buck 631 Paklite 2.0 Field Knife Gr gives a 4 inch stonewash S35VN blade and a green canvas micarta handle. The two distributor texts share an 8.25 inch overall length, a full tang, a lanyard hole and a black polypropylene sheath, and the USA is the origin on each listing.

The S35VN listing costs more than the 420HC one, and the distributor texts show two differences to set against that step: the steel and the handle. For the steel half of the decision, the question on a fixed blade that works outdoors is which failure you run into more often, an edge gone dull or a blade that spots and nicks, and whether you sharpen as you go or leave it until the work is done.

Both Alpha Hunters give a 3.63 inch drop point

Buck's Alpha family makes the same split with more changing around the blade. The Buck Alpha Hunter Select Gray gives a 3.63 inch stonewash 420HC drop point, a gray glass filled nylon handle with a black Versaflex inlay, a full extended tang and a black polyester belt sheath, 8.38 inches overall. The Buck Alpha Hunter Walnut gives a 3.63 inch satin S35VN drop point, a checkered walnut handle, a full tang and a brown leather belt sheath, 8.13 inches overall. The Buck Alpha Scout Walnut carries S35VN on a smaller 2.88 inch satin drop point, 6.63 inches overall, with the same checkered walnut handle and brown leather belt sheath.

Between the two Alpha Hunters, the finish, handle, sheath and overall length all change with the steel, and the Walnut costs more than the Select Gray. When the handle and sheath you want come attached to one steel, the steel is the part to understand rather than the part that chooses. Either way, its ratings describe what you are accepting along with the knife you picked.

Dulling is the failure S35VN is rated against

S35VN's case is its edge, rated very good. On the same line, its record notes that the niobium carbide addition gives "a finer, more uniform carbide structure than S30V", from a recipe of about 1.4 percent carbon, 3 percent vanadium and 0.5 percent niobium. On a fixed blade, a very good edge rating means more cutting between sharpenings, which makes the S35VN listing the one to take if your edges usually go dull before anything else goes wrong.

The 420HC stainless record rates its edge retention modest by modern standards, then adds two things that matter to someone who sharpens as they go: reliable, and very easy to sharpen. A 420HC blade asks for the stone more often and gives its edge back quickly, so a small stone in a pack turns a dull edge into a short pause. The S35VN record makes its claim on the other side, in how long the edge lasts, and says nothing about how the steel takes a stone. If you touch up an edge in the middle of the work, 420HC's rating is written for you; if you would rather sharpen seldom and at a bench, S35VN's is.

Toughness rated against S30V, not against 420HC

The toughness line needs a careful read. S35VN's record rates its toughness as improved over S30V, which is a comparison with S30V, not with 420HC. 420HC's own toughness rating is very good, a standalone grade, and no published figure here sets the two steels side by side, so neither record ranks one tougher than the other. How S30V itself fares on toughness is the business of 420HC vs S30V.

On corrosion the records are plain: excellent for 420HC, and good for S35VN steel, similar to S30V. That gap is the one a fixed blade meets when it is stored before it has dried.

So let the failure you see most make the choice. If your fixed blades usually come back dull, S35VN's edge rating answers that. If they come back spotted, or nicked from knocks, and you sharpen as you go anyway, the 420HC listings named here answer it, and each costs less than its S35VN counterpart.

Counted from the live catalog when this page was built: 78 listings in 420HC and 31 listings in S35VN / CPM S35VN. Stock moves, so the grid below is the authority on what is on the shelf today.
What we carry in 420HC and S35VN / CPM S35VN
Buck 631 PakLite 2.0 Field Knife
Buck · BU631BKS
631 PakLite 2.0 Field Knife
In stock, ships from Virginia
$47.25
Buck 631 Paklite 2.0 Field Knife Gr
Buck · BU631GRS
631 Paklite 2.0 Field Knife Gr
In stock, ships from Virginia
$139.99
Buck Alpha Hunter Select Gray
Buck · BU664GYS
Alpha Hunter Select Gray
In stock, ships from Virginia
$69.99
Buck Alpha Scout Fixed Blade Rich
Buck · BU662BRS
Alpha Scout Fixed Blade Rich
In stock, ships from Virginia
$185.00
Buck Alpha Scout Walnut
Buck · BU662WAS
Alpha Scout Walnut
In stock, ships from Virginia
$185.00
Buck Alpha Hunter Walnut
Buck · BU664WAS
Alpha Hunter Walnut
In stock, ships from Virginia
$224.99
Buck Alpha Guide Richlite
Buck · BU663BRS
Alpha Guide Richlite
In stock, ships from Virginia
$224.99
Buck Toothpick
Buck · BU385BRS
Toothpick
In stock, ships from Virginia
$20.16
Buck 635 Paklite 2.0 Cape Pro GRN
Buck · BU635GRS
635 Paklite 2.0 Cape Pro GRN
In stock, ships from Virginia
$114.99
Buck Bantam BHW Lockback
Buck · BU286CMS24
Bantam BHW Lockback
In stock, ships from Virginia
$34.50
Buck SpitFire Lockback
Buck · BU722GYS1
SpitFire Lockback
In stock, ships from Virginia
$55.00
Buck Selkirk Linerlock
Buck · BU836BRS
Selkirk Linerlock
In stock, ships from Virginia
$84.99
Buck General Fixed Blade Phenolic
Buck · BU120BKS
General Fixed Blade Phenolic
In stock, ships from Virginia
$125.00
Gerber Doubledown Machete Black
Gerber · G1536
Doubledown Machete Black
In stock, ships from Virginia
$169.95
Case Westline Linerlock Marble
Case · CA36554
Westline Linerlock Marble
In stock, ships from Virginia
$194.99
Kershaw Chive Framelock A/O Pink
Kershaw · KS1600P
Chive Framelock A/O Pink
In stock, ships from Virginia
$81.00
Böker Plus Kwaiken Button Lock
Böker Plus · BOP01BO619
Kwaiken Button Lock
In stock, ships from Virginia
$244.80
Buck Ranger Skinner
Buck · BU113BRS
Ranger Skinner
In stock, ships from Virginia
$119.99
Gerber Propel Button Lock A/O
Gerber · G0840
Propel Button Lock A/O
In stock, ships from Virginia
$143.58
Case Westline Linerlock Black
Case · CA36550
Westline Linerlock Black
In stock, ships from Virginia
$159.99
Kershaw Scallion Framelock A/O
Kershaw · KS1620FL
Scallion Framelock A/O
In stock, ships from Virginia
$81.00
Böker Plus Little Friend Linerlock
Böker Plus · BOP01BO385
Little Friend Linerlock
In stock, ships from Virginia
$198.00
Buck Zipper Guthook Rubber
Buck · BU691
Zipper Guthook Rubber
In stock, ships from Virginia
$109.99
Gerber LMF II Infantry
Gerber · G1629
LMF II Infantry
In stock, ships from Virginia
$124.65

Frequently asked questions

Do the records put a number on S35VN's edge advantage?
No. The records behind this page rate S35VN's edge retention very good and 420HC's modest, and give no hours, cut counts or percentages. How long either edge lasts depends on what you cut and on how the blade was ground and hardened, so read the ratings as a direction, not a number.
Why is S35VN's toughness rated against S30V?
Because S35VN was made as a change to S30V. Its record describes niobium replacing some of S30V's vanadium, calls S35VN "the refined successor to S30V", and says the substitution specifically targeted better toughness and machinability, so its toughness is written as a gain on that steel. The record carries no toughness rating that sets S35VN against 420HC directly.
Do the 420HC and S35VN PakLite 2.0 Field Knife listings differ in anything besides steel and handle?
Not in the figures the distributor prints. Both texts give a 4 inch stonewash blade, an 8.25 inch overall length, a full tang, a lanyard hole and a black polypropylene sheath, and both listings give the USA as origin. The wording is not identical, though: the 420HC text calls its blade a skinner blade and its sheath a belt sheath, and the S35VN text does neither, so read the pair as matched on the lines the distributor prints rather than as one knife in two steels.
About these figures

The figures on this page are the published specification ranges for the alloy, cross-checked against manufacturer datasheets and independent metallurgical references. They describe the steel, not any one knife. Hardness in particular is a range a mill and a knifemaker work inside, and Knives Now does not test the heat treat of individual knives, so nothing here is a claim about what a specific listing measures.

  1. Buck Knives steel education pages
  2. zknives.com 420HC composition/equivalents page
  3. Crucible Industries CPM S35VN datasheet
  4. Knife Steel Nerds S35VN coverage

Cross-checked against the sources above. Figures verified 2026-07-19.

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